The Plant will be covering the debate as it unfolds.
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- Came out with a thorough policy-based answer. She ended her question by reminding voters what this election comes down to; “You have to judge us based on who can shoulder the immense responsibilities of the presidency.”
- Called Trump’s economic policy as “Trumped-up trickle-down economics,” which she argued were the same kind of policies that created the 2008 financial crisis. She juxtaposed the sum of money Trump started his business with and her father’s working-class experience.
- Said “I know you live in your own reality.”
- Instantly mentioned jobs “fleeing the country.” He sounded calm and collected, but only produced shallow protectionist rhetoric.
- Emphasized the growth of his business because “that’s what the country needs” in response to a question about how to bring trade back. He argued that we need better trade deals, using the examples of China and Mexico. When brought back to the question of how to get jobs back, Trump said we needed to stop letting jobs leave the country.
- Asked why Clinton is only thinking of these solution after thirty years in politics. Clinton argued she has, citing the success of deals she supported.
- Attacked NAFTA and Clinton’s alleged flip-flopping on TPP. Clinton argued her positions had been robustly backed up.
Both Clinton and Trump came out swinging. However, discussions on trade put Clinton on the defensive and gave Trump room to appear “presidential,” especially compared to his usual incoherence.
- Ranted about the necessities of companies to bring back money stranded oversees.
- Called Clinton a “typical politician,” saying she’s all work, no action.
- Supported repatriation, as well as corporate taxes. She argued for investing in the middle class and increasing taxes on the top economic tear.
Nothing too exciting happened, but Clinton seemed to be gaining ground.
Tax Returns & Emails
- Moderator said IRS has statedTrump is clear to release tax returns, despite a “routine” audit he claims are hindering their publication. Trump then shifted and said he will release his tax returns as soon as Clinton releases her emails.
- Said the emails are “disgraceful.” Regarding tax returns, Trump said you don’t learn much from tax returns, you learn more from financial statements which he released (false according to PolitiFact). He stated that owing $650,000,000 to Wall Street is not that much (note: number to be revised to ensure factuality).
- Said that he “takes advantage of the laws of the nation.” His obligations are to do well for himself. Trump argued that Clinton ignores the tens of thousands of people that love him, and how his business success would transfer to the presidency.
(The Plant Fact check: is braggadocios a word, but means the opposite of what Trump thought it meant.)
- Asked why won’t Trump release tax returns? Not as rich as he is? Not as charitable? Owes money to Wall Street and foreign banks? Or that he hasn’t paid any federal income tax. Trump quipped “that makes me smart.”
- Admitted she made a mistake regarding the emails and she takes responsibility.
- Reminded viewers of all the individuals that were left unpaid by Trump businesses. “I am relieved my late father never did work with you. He expected the bargain to be kept on both side.”
- She further reminded viewers of Trump’s multiple bankruptcies. “Sometimes there is not a direct transfer of skills from business to government. Some things that are good for business would be terrible for government.”
Trump was definitely on the defensive for this portion. He tried to put Clinton on the defensive regarding her emails, but she deflected the question with ease and moved on.
- “Race remains a significant challenge in our country,” including in the criminal justice system.
- “We have to restore trust between communities and the police, we have to ensure our police are using the best techniques and training.”
- “I have called for criminal justice reform.”
- “We have to tackle the gun epidemic.”
- Remarked on Trump’s characterization of black communities as he scoffs. She argues that safety is important, and not only is Stop and Frisk unconstitutional, it is ineffective.
- “Violent crime is half of what it was in 1991.” However, she points out it did disproportionately affect PoC.
- “We cannot just say law and order, we need to reform the criminal justice system.”
- Clinton said common-sense gun legislation is necessary. Need comprehensive background check and pass a prohibition on buying guns for those on the no-fly list.
- Moderator asked if Clinton thinks police are implicitly biased. She answered “I think implicit bias is a problem for everyone, not just police.”
- “We need law and order.”
- Trump told viewers he has endorsements from various police groups.
- “Inner cities, African-Americans and Hispanics, are living in hell.”
- Trump brought in fear mongering, but under the guise of minority protection.
- Moderator noted that Stop and Frisk was ruled unconstitutional in New York because it is a form of racial profiling. Trump says Stop and Frisk is necessary because of how dangerous American cities are.
- “There are some bad things going on, some really bad things. We need law and order.”
- Tried to pander to the African-American community by saying how badly they’ve been treated by the Democrats.
Clinton had the upper-hand regarding racial issues. Trump was put on the spot particularly for his support of Stop and Frisk.
- Said that the Birther movement started with the Clinton 2008 campaign (false according to PolitiFact). Said Clinton didn’t produce birth certificate, whereas he did. Didn’t answer why he didn’t give it up after birth certificate was produced. Trump argued that he did a great service for the country.
- Emphasized how long Trump spent on the Birther movement. She tells viewers that Trump was sued for discrimination. In response, Trump said he settled that lawsuit without any admission of guilt (even though that’s exactly what happens when you settle a legal case).
Trump was on the defensive and didn’t give a full answer as to why he kept questioning Obama’s place of birth.
Safety in America
21st Century Cyber-Security
- Said Putin has let loose cyber-attackers.
- Argued Bush made agreement as to when Iraq would leave. Only way Obama administration could have changed is with consent of Iraqi government, which they wouldn’t give.
- Cites his endorsements. Says will take “admirals over the political hacks.” Says “ISIS is beating us at our best game” (does he mean terrorism?) and we have to get “very very tough on cyber-war.”
- Says Bush and Obama created a vacuum when they left. Should have left troops, or taken the oil. Blames Clinton for ISIS.
Prevent Home-Grown Attacks
- Says he supports NATO, but member-states need to pay their 2% share.
- Trump says that he did not support the Iraq war. Says narrative that he supported it as mainstream media bias.
- “I have better judgement than she does. I have a better temperament than she does. I have a winning temperament.”
- “Nuclear armament is the single greatest threat, not global warming.”
- “Whoo! Okay!”
- Re NATO: Emphasizes importance of Treaty.
- Re Iran: Put together coalition to impose toughest sanctions on Iran, which drove them to the negotiating table, and put a lit on Iranian nuclear developments. Also mentions Trump’s comments about Iranian soldiers
- Re Trump’s Attitude Towards Nuclear Weapons: “A man who can get provoked by a tweet should not have access to the nuclear codes.”
- Argues we have to be prepared. Argues China, Iran, and other countries, should stop North Korea for the US.
- Says Iran deal is one of the “worst deals ever made by any country.”
- “Words matter.” Reassures allies that we have mutual defence treaties that will be honoured.
- “He says it’s a secret plan, but the only secret is he has no plan.”
Clinton as First Female Candidate
- “I don’t believe she has the stamina.”
- “She has experience, but she has bad experience.”
- Re: attack ads, “it’s not nice.” But says polls are looking good!
- “After he’s traveled the world, gone through an eleven-hour period.”
- “This is a man who’s called women pig, slobs and dogs, who has said women don’t deserve equal pay, and one of the worst things he said was about a woman in a beauty contest. He called this woman ‘Ms. Piggy’ and ‘Ms. Housekeeper’ because she’s Latina… You can bet she’s voting this November.”
Will you support will of the voters?
- “I support our democracy. It’s about you and your future, so I hope you get out and vote.”
- “I want to make America great again… [Illegal immigrants are bad… Only I can make America great again.] If she wins I will absolutely support her.”